What do I have, and where do I start

Submitted by stillnlearning on Sat, 06/25/2011 - 14:32
Hi All, I know this is a Flying Scot forum. However, I have an older Gordon Douglass #112. I believe it is a precursor to a Flying Scot. This boat was “rescued”, from a field where it had been exposed to the weather for several years. One person who saw this boat said, “that is one ugly boat”! I took it sailing a few times last summer and it performed well, didn’t take in any water. I have been reading the posts about painting the bottom, hull and deck. Several of the posts describe the gel-coat, bottom paint, fiberglass and other layers. How can I tell which layer I am looking at? What are the Light blue and red layers? Is bottom paint only put on the bottom ant up to the red waterline? What type of paint would I use for the red waterline and the upper hull? Since I only sail on freshwater lakes I don’t think I will need an anti-fouling layer. All comments and suggestions are welcome. I will attempt to attach a few pictures. Thank you, P.s. how do I add pictures? Stillnlearning New owner of a very old FS.
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Paste in a link to a pic you have on picasa or similar site.

Submitted by sawyerspadre on Sat, 06/25/2011 - 20:18.
Paste in a link to a pic you have on picasa or similar site. Phil Scheetz FS 4086

Phil Scheetz

FS 4086

Fleet 163, Nockamixon Sail Club

Please try this link to pictures.

Submitted by stillnlearning on Sun, 06/26/2011 - 18:45.
Please try this link to pictures. I was not able to edit my initial posting. https://picasaweb.google.com/115124774713548929646/FlyingScot?authkey=Gv... New owner of a very old FS.

Looks like a light blue or grey gelcoat that long ago was painte

Submitted by Hot Wheels on Sun, 06/26/2011 - 20:00.
Looks like a light blue or grey gelcoat that long ago was painted over with poorly adhering white paint and a red boot stripe. As long as the hull and deck balsa cores are sound (not soggy or rotten) the paint is just cosmetic and probably removable with common paint remover, a big job. The simple, cheap thing to do is clean the dirt up, leave the paint as is and go sailing. The red on the deck may be the layer under the light blue that was sanded down in preparation for the white paint, which has since peeled off. There have been some very old but competitive Scots that were ugly but fast. Keep in mind that paint adds weight and weight is slow.

Sawyerspadre & Hot Wheels, Thank for your replies.

Submitted by stillnlearning on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 06:16.
Sawyerspadre & Hot Wheels, Thank for your replies. My goal at this point is to get it on the water and spend some time on the lake. I don’t plan to race at this point. I have cleaned the bottom up some. If I get to stripping and painting; would you use a different paint above and below the boot line? Do you have a preference for bottom paints? Thanks, New owner of a very old FS.

A pint can of rusteleum oil based enamel paint , sold in a vari

Submitted by karafiath on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 12:30.
A pint can of rusteleum oil based enamel paint , sold in a variety of colors, painted over the boot stripe will work fine. Mine has been on for over 10 years and shows no more fade than the other more expensive 2 part paints. Sail and enjoy the boat.

A pint can of rusteleum oil based enamel paint , sold in a vari

Submitted by karafiath on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 12:31.
A pint can of rusteleum oil based enamel paint , sold in a variety of colors, painted over the boot stripe will work fine. Mine has been on for over 10 years and shows no more fade than the other more expensive 2 part paints. Sail and enjoy the boat.

Paint for below the waterline depends on whether you will leave

Submitted by sawyerspadre on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 18:53.
Paint for below the waterline depends on whether you will leave the boat on a mooring or at a dock in the water, or store it on the trailer (dry sail). If you drysail clean smooth gelcoat is the best. You may have that under your paint layers. You could also just sand what you have nice and smooth and go sailing. If it will be left in the water then you want to get antifouling paint that is optimized for either fresh or salt water. The picture looks like that is what you have now. K is right on the waterline stripe. I used Petit enamel and it lasts. Rustoleum would cost less and probably last just as long. If the sides are not painted above the stripe, I could try buffing before painting. Gelcoat, buffed will be more durable than paint, which often scratches. Phil Scheetz FS 4086

Phil Scheetz

FS 4086

Fleet 163, Nockamixon Sail Club

I can attest to scratches on one-part paints (my project.

Submitted by SavageViews on Tue, 07/05/2011 - 09:33.
I can attest to scratches on one-part paints (my project. Next time I am going two-part for hull/deck...and not a white deck (way too bright). The one-part has been fine for boot. Below waterline should only be paint designed for that purpose. I have heard that even dry-sailed, non-marine paints will bubble. I sprayed VC Performance and have been happy with it, though spraying was a PITA and somewhat dangerous (solvents).